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1/72 Airfix Gloster Javelin T3
This is the one I am going to do next so as soon as I get off my PC I am off into the "Grumpy Old Man's Room" according to my kids or "The Shed of Peace and Happiness" as I like to call it, to start the 1/72 Airfix Gloster Javelin T3. Its an old kit as you might have guessed with raised panel lines, etc.
I am waiting for some more photo etch to turn up and the kit doesn't have any pilots so I will have to find some of them. I think my first job will be a touch of re-scribing which looking at the fuselage halves might take a bit of time, but that's the fun of modelling.
I am waiting for some more photo etch to turn up and the kit doesn't have any pilots so I will have to find some of them. I think my first job will be a touch of re-scribing which looking at the fuselage halves might take a bit of time, but that's the fun of modelling.
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Pulling up my chair, beer and nachos at the ready. This is gonna be good
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It's all quite easy to re-scribe being broad and flat apart from the intake lips. I went to town on mine converting it to a Mk6. http://uamf.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5971; Look forward to seeing my magic you work on yours.
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Thanks Kitaholic.
Thanks James for the link to yours and I am very impressed especially the cockpit which will be invaluable as I don't have many photo's of the cockpit. This one I am going to leave as the T3 as I want it to be a quick build, hopefully. I will post some photo's later on tonight to let you see how I get on with the re-scribing.JamesPerrin wrote:It's all quite easy to re-scribe being broad and flat apart from the intake lips. I went to town on mine converting it to a Mk6. http://uamf.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5971; Look forward to seeing my magic you work on yours.
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I quite agree, my chair is also ready so Ian, you can start the show when ever you like.Kitaholic wrote:Pulling up my chair, beer and nachos at the ready. This is gonna be good
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Settling in to observe progresssplash wrote:I quite agree, my chair is also ready so Sunray, you can start the show when ever you like.Kitaholic wrote:Pulling up my chair, beer and nachos at the ready. This is gonna be good
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Nice one Ian, I'm joining the audience to watch you work your magic
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Thanks lads. First here are some of the tools I use for re-scribing.
The top two scriber's are my favourite and I use them most of the time. I think I ordered them from a company in the Czech Republic and cost around £14 each so they weren't cheap but they are the best I have used. I have got a Tamiya one knocking around somewhere as well.
Templates and a flexible metal rule.
3M 471 Blue Fine Line Vinyl Masking Tape 3mm (£3.85 off ebay delivered) which is excellent stuff for guiding the scriber around fuselages. jet intakes, etc. I used to use Dymo tape but this stuff is a lot cheaper and the adhesive lasts a lot longer as well.
Here is the lower fuselage before I started and there is a quite a bit to do but I find if I get bored or fed up with re-scribing, its best to go for a coffee or watch the TV but don't carry on and try to rush it takes when I make a mistake. Its one of those jobs that you have to take your time.
I started sribing the panels first using the templates. Normally I would sand down the raised panel lines and then re-scribe them but this time I decided to use the raised panel lines around the panels to help postition the template and keep it in the right place. I scribed the new panels then I would sand them down to remove any ridges. I have left the dust in the new panels to make it easier to see in the photo. Also here is the 3M tape in action. On this line I sanded the raised line down first just enough so you can see the original line then I placed the 3M tape along the line. Now it just a case of running the scriber along the edge of the tape, not pushing down on the scriber just letting the weight of the scriber do the cutting. You may think it hasn't cut anything but it will have. Now do it again and again and you will see a bit of waste plastic starting to come up from the scriber. When you are happy remove the tape.
Here is the completed lower fuselage.
Now for the upper fuselage.
I used the 3M tape again around the air intakes.
Here is part of the tail fin. Before......
And after....
to be continued.
The top two scriber's are my favourite and I use them most of the time. I think I ordered them from a company in the Czech Republic and cost around £14 each so they weren't cheap but they are the best I have used. I have got a Tamiya one knocking around somewhere as well.
Templates and a flexible metal rule.
3M 471 Blue Fine Line Vinyl Masking Tape 3mm (£3.85 off ebay delivered) which is excellent stuff for guiding the scriber around fuselages. jet intakes, etc. I used to use Dymo tape but this stuff is a lot cheaper and the adhesive lasts a lot longer as well.
Here is the lower fuselage before I started and there is a quite a bit to do but I find if I get bored or fed up with re-scribing, its best to go for a coffee or watch the TV but don't carry on and try to rush it takes when I make a mistake. Its one of those jobs that you have to take your time.
I started sribing the panels first using the templates. Normally I would sand down the raised panel lines and then re-scribe them but this time I decided to use the raised panel lines around the panels to help postition the template and keep it in the right place. I scribed the new panels then I would sand them down to remove any ridges. I have left the dust in the new panels to make it easier to see in the photo. Also here is the 3M tape in action. On this line I sanded the raised line down first just enough so you can see the original line then I placed the 3M tape along the line. Now it just a case of running the scriber along the edge of the tape, not pushing down on the scriber just letting the weight of the scriber do the cutting. You may think it hasn't cut anything but it will have. Now do it again and again and you will see a bit of waste plastic starting to come up from the scriber. When you are happy remove the tape.
Here is the completed lower fuselage.
Now for the upper fuselage.
I used the 3M tape again around the air intakes.
Here is part of the tail fin. Before......
And after....
to be continued.
Cheers
Ian
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Well, that is highly welcome and educational. Well done.
I have those templates; just can't figure how to hold them steady when in use. They slide around on me like they are on skates, and I've stopped using them for that reason.
I have those templates; just can't figure how to hold them steady when in use. They slide around on me like they are on skates, and I've stopped using them for that reason.
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I don't have the templates, but the same problem: a shortage of hands. Ideally, I'd need two on the model to keep it in one place, two on the guide (of whatever form), and one on the scriber. That leaves me three hands short, and I suspect that if I were somehow to acquire those, I would find there's no room for all of them inside the workarea. So, things bounce and slither about, and my attempts at scribing so far have met with dismal results59North wrote:I have those templates; just can't figure how to hold them steady when in use. They slide around on me like they are on skates, and I've stopped using them for that reason.
I have yet to try scribing along existing raised lines, and that tape looks a lot more useful than the (in my opinion) too thick Dymo stuff. One day I'll figure it out
Watching this job with some admiration..
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One of my favourite kits. It was originally a Heller product but was re-released under the Airfix brand during the Humbrol ownership period. The moulds were converted to the FAW 9 version a number of years later so there will be no more T3s.
I'm not too concerned about raised lines but your re-scribing looks spot on.
I'm not too concerned about raised lines but your re-scribing looks spot on.
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Most helpful to see how things are done properly.
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Tape the templates in position to hold them securely.59North wrote:Well, that is highly welcome and educational. Well done.
I have those templates; just can't figure how to hold them steady when in use. They slide around on me like they are on skates, and I've stopped using them for that reason.
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Thanks everyone.
I use this all the time as it will not shrink because its basically liquid plastic styrene. I normally let it dry completely for 24 hours to be safe until its rock hard and sand it down but you can re-scribe on it.
As you can see from the photo's I used it on the O2 I made as it had a few gaps. The down side is it smells a bit.
To go back to the re-scribing its one of those things take you will need a bit of practise and take your time as my Dad used to say.
I hope this helps.
James is spot on the money, just tape the template in position with masking tape if required. I don't do it most of the time but its an excellent tip. Don't worry if you make a mistake I do all the time and if I do all I do is use home-made plastic filter made from about half a jar, maybe less of Tamiya Extra Thin with bits of old sprue chopped up and dropped in. Give it a stir every now and then to help the sprue dissolve and add more sprue until thickens up. I do it so its thick enough so it just slowly drops off the jar brush.59North wrote:Well, that is highly welcome and educational. Well done.
I have those templates; just can't figure how to hold them steady when in use. They slide around on me like they are on skates, and I've stopped using them for that reason.
I use this all the time as it will not shrink because its basically liquid plastic styrene. I normally let it dry completely for 24 hours to be safe until its rock hard and sand it down but you can re-scribe on it.
As you can see from the photo's I used it on the O2 I made as it had a few gaps. The down side is it smells a bit.
To go back to the re-scribing its one of those things take you will need a bit of practise and take your time as my Dad used to say.
I hope this helps.
Cheers
Ian
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Ordering 3M tape and nice tip on the filler
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