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ShaunW wrote:That really looks good Andrew. Stencils? schmencils! Just put the most visible half a dozen on :ha:
Exactly. :-D
I think there are 20 or so on the fuselage and a few on the missiles and pylons :)

They are much less visible on a camouflaged plane than they would be on a boring grey paint job.
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The pre-war scheme does make the aircraft look much more war like. An interesting mix of times in the RAF's history. I wonder what awaits us in real life in 2018?

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Away from modelling for a month, so I eased back in with a few more decals on the Eurofighter:
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I certainly won't be putting the really tiny stencils on!

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Bit of a standout. Looks very good.

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Now that looks quite something Andrew, the WW II scheme really does suit it very well.

Wot - no hundreds of leading and trailing edge "no step" stencils being applied? Call yourself a modern jet modeller? :ha:
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ShaunW wrote:Now that looks quite something Andrew, the WW II scheme really does suit it very well.

Wot - no hundreds of leading and trailing edge "no step" stencils being applied? Call yourself a modern jet modeller? :ha:
I don't even call myself a modeller :ha:
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AndrewR wrote:
ShaunW wrote:Now that looks quite something Andrew, the WW II scheme really does suit it very well.

Wot - no hundreds of leading and trailing edge "no step" stencils being applied? Call yourself a modern jet modeller? :ha:
I don't even call myself a modeller :ha:
Neither do we :ha: :ha: (sorry, but the door was open for that one!)
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philp wrote:
fredk wrote:The Red Devil motif was added to the RAF Typhoon about 6 weeks ago, along with Nicholson's name. If AMW are claiming that they are stealing another researcher's thunder.
Not sure if anyone is trying to steal anything and who knows when this issue went to print. Jst the Welcome page with a note from the guy who built the Hurricane in the previous issue based on contact he had with Nicolson's nephew.

Anyone have a pic of the real bird with the insignia on? None on the interweb thingy seem to show it.

Hi folks:

Just dropping by here to retrospectively apply a healthy injection of the actual facts, to address the speculation of my allegedly "...stealing another researcher's thunder".

Here's a cut and paste from the Key publishing forum that fully encapsulates events, who was involved and my role within it, as an AMW contributor.

"I’m the ‘independant researcher’ Andy has referred to previously (Hi Andy!). Just a few words from me, if I may, to explain where I fit in to all this. You should also understand that I set out to answer two questions -

Was there such an emblem on Nicolson's Hurricane on and prior to August 16, 1940.
2. What did it look like?

Sometimes an innocent surprise can be the catalyst for a chain of events that are at once, unexpected and out of step with anything that could be reasonably anticipated.
 
I received a phone call from Editor Chris Clifford back in the earlier part of this year, in the wake of my test shot build of the new 1/48 Airfix Hurricane, to advise he'd received a complimentary email. The test shot didn't come with decals, so I was free to choose the markings. That was an easy decision for me, as a long term admirer of James Nicolson VC and so the kit was duly published in the March 2015 issue as 'GN-A' P3576 in a special Battle of Britain supplement.
 
The email was from Jim Nicolson, nephew of James (JBN) and within the body of the narrative was the remark "I thought you and Steve might be interested to know that, according to his widow, my uncle apparently had a red devil figure painted on the nose of P3576". This was an intriguing revelation. I had no such marking on the Aviaeology decal sheet I'd used in the Hurricane build and so contacted Terry Higgins at the company, who confirmed he had no knowledge of such a thing either.
 
Dialogue with Jim (a really lovely guy) revealed that he'd visited JBN's widow, Muriel many times before she died, who had told him of a letter JBN had written to her in 1940, prior to the VC engagement on August 16, 1940 in which 'Nick' mentioned that he'd had a 'red devil' emblem painted on his Hurricane. Jim confirmed that Muriel's mind was sharp as a tack and that he regarded her recollection as entirely accurate.
 
Jim also disclosed to me during our initial contact, that JBN's uniform and Mae West were on display at the Tangmere Museum of aviation and that there was a red devil emblem to one side of the display case, which he speculated, was possibly a German bomber Geschwader symbol. I was curious about that, as JBN's only known 'kill' was the Bf110 he took down over Southampton. Given that the ‘110’ was not a ‘bomber’ per se, I couldn’t personally see what relevance to the Tangmere display might lay in an arbitrary German symbol, so with that in mind, ‘parked’ those thoughts temporarily.
 
In essence, I’d reached 'critical mass' at this point and determined to 'chase down' this elusive red devil that I'd never previously seen appear on any decal sheet or any finished model that I was aware of. First order of business then, was to Google it to a standstill and happily a particular enquiry phrase threw up a comment by one Andy Saunders, on Key Publishing’s forum way back in 2009, that the emblem was '...a detail often overlooked'.
 
Next up, was some background checking on Andy (who, to my everlasting shame, had never heard of before) that quickly revealed him as a respected aviation historian, who had worked on some very notable restoration projects, among them the recent 'Guy Martin's Spitfire', so I did the next logical thing and emailed him to ascertain the source of his assertion in 2009. He was just off on a project for three weeks, so there it rested. I picked up threads with Andy on his return and a short while later he dropped back to me and attached to his email was a scan of an IPMS article drawn up by the late Doris Reeves and illustrated by Gary Davidson both from the Souders-Earhart chapter of the IPMS in the USA - the piece having appeared in 'Wings and Wheels' sometime before Doris passed away in 2000. Entitled "Heroic Hurricane", it included a port side profile drawing of 'GN-A' and a detail illustration of the red devil emblem. The narrative made mention of having been derived from the November 30, 1940 article in the now defunct Illustrated London News (ILN).
 
The ILN piece, it turned out, was a double page centre spread, dominated by a painting by noted war artist, Bryan De Grineau and endorsed with the statement "Specially drawn for the Illustrated London News by our special artist Bryan De Grineau from details personally supplied by Flight Lieut. Nicolson VC".

The narrative itself included "On the side of his 'Hurricane' he carries as a symbol a little devil making a defiant gesture". This material, together with Muriel's personal testimony eradicated any doubt that there was indeed, such a symbol in Nick's Hurricane on August 16, 1940. What remained, was to establish, as far as might be possible without photographs, what the emblem looked like.

It’s perhaps useful to add here that my discussions with Jim Nicolson revealed that Tom Neil advised him that 'Nick' caused some degree of irritation on 249 due to his 'fastidious' approach to things and always wanting them to be 'right'. 

According to Jim, (who has the actual telegram and one 'Nick' sent to Muriel, his wife, on being told he would receive the VC) Nicolson dictated a telegram to a policeman by the roadside immediately after being shot down. He is reported as having given the police officer 'a rocket' for adding an 'h' erroneously to his surname. Fastidious indeed. I mention this, as ‘Nick’ would not have ‘signed off’ on the ILN material without first checking its veracity.
 
So, back in research mode, the emblem on the cabinet at Tangmere matched that in the Souders-Earhart article and further background checks then revealed that Andy Saunders was actually the founder of the Tangmere Museum (something else I wasn’t aware of). It was clear therefore that the origin of the Tangmere painting had to be established and so I picked up with Andy again. He kindly verified that he had indeed commissioned the now late Michael Payne to paint the emblem and that the Souders-Earhart article was the source of it.
 
I then felt compelled to examine the ILN edition myself and lashed £33.50 (putting my money where my mouth is) for an original example from the publishing date. It tallied with the Souders-Earhart article and as such, it seemed reasonable to share the outcome with Terry at Aviaeology. I asked if he would revise his decal presentation to include the red devil and happily, he agreed to do so, in 1/72, 1/48 and 1/24 and that was the conclusion of my initial investigations, that were obviously driven from a modelling perspective.
 
As you might imagine, I was pretty content at the fact that I’d taken Jim’s email ‘aside’ and united the pieces of an aspect of aviation history that had become separated and 'lost' (and had zero cognisance among the world wide modelling community) and that it all pertained to one of my great heroes...but there was more to come and it really was unexpected.
 
I was touring Facebook a little over a month ago when I tripped over a three quarter frontal shot of a Eurofighter Typhoon in dark earth and dark green. On its flank was what looked like ‘GN-A'. I emailed Jim to ask if he knew about it - he didn't and as someone who regularly gives illustrated talks about Nick, was very excited by this and keen to know more, so I lapsed into research mode again and traced the Tiffie to Coningsby. After a couple of transfers I ended up with Yvonne Masters in their Media Comms Office. I explained my Airfix Model World role and my contact with Jim and asked if they had a Nicolson tribute aircraft. Yvonne confirmed that they did and we spoke about it for quite a while, during which (surprise, surprise) I mentioned the matter of the red devil emblem and that I would share the material more particularly mentioned above with them. As the conversation wound down, Yvonne added that there was going to be an official press unveiling on Thursday 21 May. I suggested they'd benefit from having Jim and his Nicolson artefacts present on the day and guess what, no surprise, I said it was essential I go too and happily 'The Angel of Coningsby' gave it her blessing.
 
I duly forwarded my evidence to Yvonne and requested that the RAF place Nicolson's emblem (as depicted on the painting at Tangmere) on their Tiffie as a further mark of respect to Nicolson. This, I was advised, initially went to the SEngO of 29® Squadron, who I now know to be Bryn Kirby, who helped begin the process of examining my application. Well, the correspondence naturally flowed between Coningsby, me, Jim, Andy and Chris, until I spoke to Yvonne last week and pressed her about the status, to which she replied that it was looking '98.5% certain that the emblem would be applied'. On Wednesday of this week, the day before the unveiling, I received an email from Coningsby verifying that some 75 years after Nicolson's emblem had last appeared in the skies over Southampton, it would once again take flight. It was an emotional moment - more so when Jim and I were escorted to the aircraft on Thursday, ahead of the press pack and saw his symbol emblazoned on the Tiffie. Next to it, was stencilled "Flt. Lt. James Nicolson VC.
 
I'll never forget what that engendered in me. A conversation with Bryn on the apron revealed that the sign off within the RAF to my request was "...second in overall command". Jim and I were later invited to lunch with Ben Westoby-Brooks, the synchro pair display pilot  and Bryn Kirby and later had a very pleasant chat with Andy 'Milli' Millikin, current boss of the BBMF, before a tour of the hanger. A truly epic day and it was very evident to me, that Jim’s presence on the day gave a depth and focus to the event that greatly benefitted the RAF and the media in consequence. He’s going back for a gala dinner with senior RAF personnel and to give his famous talk about ‘Nick’ to the squadrons and personnel on base.

And now, some thanks and recognition from me. First up, has to be Jim Nicolson, without whose email and ‘aside’ about the red devil, I’d never have gone galavanting off on all this in the first place or ended up at Coningsby and that leads me naturally on to Andy Saunders, who’s very kind co-operation in providing the Souders-Earhart scan and answering my many questions with patience and consummate professionalism led me to Tangmere and the painting he commissioned. Thanks also to Tangmere Museum for ‘minding’ me so closely and attentively while I was on-site and for co-operating with my photography request.

So, we all played a part in a piece of modern aviation history but do you know what? It’s not actually about Jim, Andy, Tangmere or me - it’s about James Nicolson VC and his astonishing act of bravery over Southampton in those dark days of 1940, when the Germans stood on the North French coast and planned their invasion of Britain."


You'll hopefully see therefore that while Andy Saunders was aware of the Red Devil, the only researchers apparently on record as having directly discovered the emblem's existence are Jim Nicolson (via Muriel) and the late Doris Reeves (an ex-news editor).

My role (as my guest editorial revealed) was to bring the parts of the story together. Adding the emblem to the EF Typhoon was an unexpected opportunity and it was a huge pleasure to liaise with the RAF and be invited with Jim to Coningsby for the official press unveiling, to have met the Tiffie's driver, Ben Westoby Brooks, Bryn Kirby (chief engineer) and to have had lunch with them in the officer's mess afterwards.

Terry at Aviaeology has just advised that revised decals for Nick's Hurricane, that include the Red Devil at the RAF's stipulated 10 inch maximum diameter for such emblems and at the larger size as depicted by De Grineau in the Illustrated London News, will be printed shortly in 1/72, 1/48 and 1/24.

Hope that clears things up. ;-)


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Hi Steve!

Nice to see you on here!

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Sir T wrote:Hi Steve!

Nice to see you on here!

Cheers

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Hi Stuart:

Likewise!


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Thanks for the information Steve. Happy faces all round. :grin:

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For some reason I have developed an aversion to putting the undercarriage doors on the Firestreak Hunter. :roll:

So, to train for this epic feat,I put the undercarriage on the Eurofighter Typhoon! For no obvious reason, it got sidelined in November, in a fairly advanced state, so it needs finishing.

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The kit canopy doesn't fit brilliantly, but I have a vacform replacement.

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The white underwing pylons need another coat of paint. A few missiles have been painted, but need some decals on.

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The canards and airbrake are also in the paint shop.
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All the pylons are now attached, and I added a couple of AMRAAMs plus two pods on the rear fuselage stations.

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These are an advanced rearward detection system, known as The Sting and a Blue Morrissey ECM pod.

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Still to add: ASRAAM and ALRAAM on pylons.
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Coming on well
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